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	<description>inde vides agilem bella gerentem</description>
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		<title>By: Viewscreens are coming &#124; Anonymong</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2010/01/15/the-tale-of-the-american-hoon/comment-page-1/#comment-2611</link>
		<dc:creator>Viewscreens are coming &#124; Anonymong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] America they&#8217;re considering making conspiracy theories [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Falco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Falco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;With a name like Cass Sunstein, I assumed him to be a her, but I guess that just means I am old.&quot;

You&#039;re not being unreasonable or old here. Cass is a derivative of Kassandra, (Lit. She who entangles men)

http://teaandsophistry.blogspot.com/2010/01/she-who-entangles-men.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;With a name like Cass Sunstein, I assumed him to be a her, but I guess that just means I am old.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not being unreasonable or old here. Cass is a derivative of Kassandra, (Lit. She who entangles men)</p>
<p><a href="http://teaandsophistry.blogspot.com/2010/01/she-who-entangles-men.html" rel="nofollow">http://teaandsophistry.blogspot.com/2010/01/she-who-entangles-men.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: DP</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2010/01/15/the-tale-of-the-american-hoon/comment-page-1/#comment-1473</link>
		<dc:creator>DP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ms Good War

With a name like Cass Sunstein, I assumed him to be a her, but I guess that just means I am old.

He sounds like he&#039;s a conspiracy theorist himself, and judging by his views, Sun is definitely not good for you, especially when attached to a lump of rock.

DP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ms Good War</p>
<p>With a name like Cass Sunstein, I assumed him to be a her, but I guess that just means I am old.</p>
<p>He sounds like he&#8217;s a conspiracy theorist himself, and judging by his views, Sun is definitely not good for you, especially when attached to a lump of rock.</p>
<p>DP</p>
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		<title>By: bellagerens</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2010/01/15/the-tale-of-the-american-hoon/comment-page-1/#comment-1465</link>
		<dc:creator>bellagerens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I addressed that in a later post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I addressed that in a later post.</p>
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		<title>By: tomsmith</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2010/01/15/the-tale-of-the-american-hoon/comment-page-1/#comment-1464</link>
		<dc:creator>tomsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Sunstein actually says in huis paper is this:

&quot;What can government do about conspiracy theories? Among the things it can do, what should it do? We can readily imagine a series of possible responses. (1) Government might ban conspiracy theorizing. (2) Government might impose some kind of tax, financial or otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories. (3) Government might itself engage in counterspeech, marshaling arguments to discredit conspiracy theories. (4) Government might formally hire credible private parties to engage in counterspeech. (5) Government might engage in informal communication with such parties, encouraging them to help. Each instrument has a distinctive set of potential effects, or costs and benefits, and each will have a place under imaginable conditions.
However, our main policy idea is that government should engage in cognitive infiltration of the groups that produce conspiracy theories, which involves a mix of (3), (4) and (5).&quot;

He first sets out what government could do (1-5), and then states what he thinks government should do (3-5). He specifically excludes banning and taxing from the things government should do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Sunstein actually says in huis paper is this:</p>
<p>&#8220;What can government do about conspiracy theories? Among the things it can do, what should it do? We can readily imagine a series of possible responses. (1) Government might ban conspiracy theorizing. (2) Government might impose some kind of tax, financial or otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories. (3) Government might itself engage in counterspeech, marshaling arguments to discredit conspiracy theories. (4) Government might formally hire credible private parties to engage in counterspeech. (5) Government might engage in informal communication with such parties, encouraging them to help. Each instrument has a distinctive set of potential effects, or costs and benefits, and each will have a place under imaginable conditions.<br />
However, our main policy idea is that government should engage in cognitive infiltration of the groups that produce conspiracy theories, which involves a mix of (3), (4) and (5).&#8221;</p>
<p>He first sets out what government could do (1-5), and then states what he thinks government should do (3-5). He specifically excludes banning and taxing from the things government should do.</p>
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		<title>By: Absolut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Absolut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://rawstory.com/2010/01/obama-staffer-infiltration-911-groups/

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585

The above link takes you the Cass Sunstein story. There second link will take you to the original paper Sunstein wrote. I think you will find within his &#039;thesis&#039; things which are much more disturbing than simply banning conspiracy theorizing. He is, indeed, a dodgy customer.</description>
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<p><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585" rel="nofollow">http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585</a></p>
<p>The above link takes you the Cass Sunstein story. There second link will take you to the original paper Sunstein wrote. I think you will find within his &#8216;thesis&#8217; things which are much more disturbing than simply banning conspiracy theorizing. He is, indeed, a dodgy customer.</p>
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		<title>By: bellagerens</title>
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		<dc:creator>bellagerens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 02:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck with that, Clay. I too share your suspicion of the community-minded, though I see the same problem on both sides of the political divide. The left and the right are equally bankrupt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with that, Clay. I too share your suspicion of the community-minded, though I see the same problem on both sides of the political divide. The left and the right are equally bankrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: bellagerens</title>
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		<dc:creator>bellagerens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! I&#039;d love to see just such a tax, inconsistent with my principles though it be. &#039;Excuse me, there, sir, but I believe I just overheard you articulating some shit. Allow me to provide you with this small, $20 fine for articulating shit without displaying the regulation Self-Satisfied Bureaucrat Licence. Have a nice day, sir, and don&#039;t forget to apply for that permit in future!&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! I&#8217;d love to see just such a tax, inconsistent with my principles though it be. &#8216;Excuse me, there, sir, but I believe I just overheard you articulating some shit. Allow me to provide you with this small, $20 fine for articulating shit without displaying the regulation Self-Satisfied Bureaucrat Licence. Have a nice day, sir, and don&#8217;t forget to apply for that permit in future!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: clay barham</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2010/01/15/the-tale-of-the-american-hoon/comment-page-1/#comment-1446</link>
		<dc:creator>clay barham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To turn our country around, we must permit individual interests and not community interests to dominate. Obama, Democrats, socialists, liberals and everyone on the left wants to share the booty from America saying community is most important.  SAVE THE PEBBLE DROPPERS &amp; PROSPERITY, found on claysamerica.com, tells how America did so well in the first place, and shows us how to repeat the process of regaining our prosperity.  America has drifted into meaningless altruism to the point we cannot earn our way back and focusing on individual interests as described so well by Ayn Rand.  Claysamerica.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To turn our country around, we must permit individual interests and not community interests to dominate. Obama, Democrats, socialists, liberals and everyone on the left wants to share the booty from America saying community is most important.  SAVE THE PEBBLE DROPPERS &amp; PROSPERITY, found on claysamerica.com, tells how America did so well in the first place, and shows us how to repeat the process of regaining our prosperity.  America has drifted into meaningless altruism to the point we cannot earn our way back and focusing on individual interests as described so well by Ayn Rand.  Claysamerica.com</p>
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		<title>By: hrothgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>hrothgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we lived under his soft paternal rule and were required to purchase permits for vices, would there be a permit and tax for being a self-satisfied shit-articulating bureaucrat? I doubt it somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we lived under his soft paternal rule and were required to purchase permits for vices, would there be a permit and tax for being a self-satisfied shit-articulating bureaucrat? I doubt it somehow.</p>
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