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	<description>inde vides agilem bella gerentem</description>
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		<title>By: _Felix</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/12/02/democracy-in-the-doghouse/comment-page-1/#comment-1032</link>
		<dc:creator>_Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hayek described democracy not as a means of ever finding a good government, but a means of getting rid of the worst tyrannies. With an implicit shrug of the shoulders at the prospect of escaping from tyranny altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hayek described democracy not as a means of ever finding a good government, but a means of getting rid of the worst tyrannies. With an implicit shrug of the shoulders at the prospect of escaping from tyranny altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: CC Truckston</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/12/02/democracy-in-the-doghouse/comment-page-1/#comment-1031</link>
		<dc:creator>CC Truckston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very existence of a government negates democracy: It means the rule of a few rather than the rule of the people.

Neither true democracy nor its opposite would be tolerable, but the rule of a few would seem to be acceptable to most, even if the cost is the loss of liberty and freedom.

The best that can be hoped for and achieved is some semblance of a representative form of government in which power is spread so widely that the resulting structure is too weak to cause a great deal of harm. (Americans, reference the Articles of Confederation, a charter thrown in the garbage because it did not sufficiently centralize power in a national government.)

I can do without democracy. Give me liberty, instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very existence of a government negates democracy: It means the rule of a few rather than the rule of the people.</p>
<p>Neither true democracy nor its opposite would be tolerable, but the rule of a few would seem to be acceptable to most, even if the cost is the loss of liberty and freedom.</p>
<p>The best that can be hoped for and achieved is some semblance of a representative form of government in which power is spread so widely that the resulting structure is too weak to cause a great deal of harm. (Americans, reference the Articles of Confederation, a charter thrown in the garbage because it did not sufficiently centralize power in a national government.)</p>
<p>I can do without democracy. Give me liberty, instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ctl.ua.edu/math103/Voting/arrows.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Arrow&#039;s Impossibility Theorem&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mathematical economist Kenneth Arrow proved (in 1952) that there is NO consistent method of making a fair choice among three or more candidates using a  preferential voting method . This remarkable result assures us that there is no single preferential election procedure that can always fairly decide the outcome of an election that involves more than two candidates or alternatives. This result does not apply to nonpreferential voting systems.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ctl.ua.edu/math103/Voting/arrows.htm" rel="nofollow">Arrow&#8217;s Impossibility Theorem</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Mathematical economist Kenneth Arrow proved (in 1952) that there is NO consistent method of making a fair choice among three or more candidates using a  preferential voting method . This remarkable result assures us that there is no single preferential election procedure that can always fairly decide the outcome of an election that involves more than two candidates or alternatives. This result does not apply to nonpreferential voting systems.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Bootsy</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/12/02/democracy-in-the-doghouse/comment-page-1/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>Bootsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike S, from my philosophy A level (don&#039;t ask) I seem to remember that one particular philosopher came up with the idea that the &quot;benevolent dictatorship&quot; was by far the most effective form of government. Of course, the only problem being that there is no guarantee that the person in power is any of those things that you described, or if they are, will hand over the reigns to someone who is. History tends to lean towards it not really working doesn&#039;t it? Like most philosophy i&#039;ve read, it&#039;s great in principle, but doesn&#039;t take into account one thing-human nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike S, from my philosophy A level (don&#8217;t ask) I seem to remember that one particular philosopher came up with the idea that the &#8220;benevolent dictatorship&#8221; was by far the most effective form of government. Of course, the only problem being that there is no guarantee that the person in power is any of those things that you described, or if they are, will hand over the reigns to someone who is. History tends to lean towards it not really working doesn&#8217;t it? Like most philosophy i&#8217;ve read, it&#8217;s great in principle, but doesn&#8217;t take into account one thing-human nature.</p>
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		<title>By: indigomyth</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/12/02/democracy-in-the-doghouse/comment-page-1/#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>indigomyth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//someone wise, incorruptible, totally benevolent and altruistic, either omni-competent or able to simulate omni-competence through perceptive use of many advisors//

Have you been reading my CV? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//someone wise, incorruptible, totally benevolent and altruistic, either omni-competent or able to simulate omni-competence through perceptive use of many advisors//</p>
<p>Have you been reading my CV? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike S.</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/12/02/democracy-in-the-doghouse/comment-page-1/#comment-1021</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Still not sure what the answer is, though…&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I think it&#039;s because there probably isn&#039;t an &quot;answer&quot;, just constantly shifting trade-offs between the benefits and drawbacks of any approach.

IMO, the ideal government would be an absolute monarchy ruled over by someone wise, incorruptible, totally benevolent and altruistic, either omni-competent or able to simulate omni-competence through perceptive use of many advisors. There appears, however, to be a severe shortage of such people on this planet - maybe none? - and the very few folks I&#039;ve heard of who &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; even &lt;i&gt;approach&lt;/i&gt; that ideal, are the types who would run away in horror and hide if you tried to set them up as ruler over &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt;.

In the meantime, democracy may be a mess, but at least it&#039;s occasionally entertaining (in between bouts of being infuriating).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Still not sure what the answer is, though…&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s because there probably isn&#8217;t an &#8220;answer&#8221;, just constantly shifting trade-offs between the benefits and drawbacks of any approach.</p>
<p>IMO, the ideal government would be an absolute monarchy ruled over by someone wise, incorruptible, totally benevolent and altruistic, either omni-competent or able to simulate omni-competence through perceptive use of many advisors. There appears, however, to be a severe shortage of such people on this planet &#8211; maybe none? &#8211; and the very few folks I&#8217;ve heard of who <i>might</i> even <i>approach</i> that ideal, are the types who would run away in horror and hide if you tried to set them up as ruler over <i>anything</i>.</p>
<p>In the meantime, democracy may be a mess, but at least it&#8217;s occasionally entertaining (in between bouts of being infuriating).</p>
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		<title>By: Longrider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Longrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been struggling with this one, too. Still not sure what the answer is, though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been struggling with this one, too. Still not sure what the answer is, though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: indigomyth</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/12/02/democracy-in-the-doghouse/comment-page-1/#comment-1017</link>
		<dc:creator>indigomyth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//Democracy is great, but only when the demos agree with me. //

Trapped between a rock and a hard place - tyranny of the majority, or tyranny of the minority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//Democracy is great, but only when the demos agree with me. //</p>
<p>Trapped between a rock and a hard place &#8211; tyranny of the majority, or tyranny of the minority.</p>
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