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	<description>inde vides agilem bella gerentem</description>
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		<title>By: bellagerens</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/04/17/a-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>bellagerens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Yes-we-can, yes-we-can, yes-we-can...&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Yes-we-can, yes-we-can, yes-we-can&#8230;&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Person of Choler</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/04/17/a-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>Person of Choler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 05:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and Obama&#039;s administration is the little red engine pulling another long train of abuses and usurpations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and Obama&#8217;s administration is the little red engine pulling another long train of abuses and usurpations.</p>
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		<title>By: TomC</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/04/17/a-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-267</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb post. Unfortunately present generations are fully functional in the malevolent legacy left to us by our post-WW1 democrats and we are now in the presence of a fully fledged battle waged by governments on behalf of some of us in order to live at the expense of the rest.

Worse, those who do understand the implications of the irrational hypocrisy of working until June to provide a living for the looters have been indoctrinated in the tools of democratic politics and consequently cannot envisage a system by which such institutionalised theft would cease. Universal slavery is thus guaranteed by the half of us who refuse to notice that they are the victims of the sacrifice.

It doesn&#039;t need to be  “Quis custodiet ipsos custode” because the imposed slavery is guaranteed by the slaves themselves.

And if I may reply to teqjack, above, who is generally on the right track, I would like to ask why he says that “...every employer I ever worked for had that tendency (to want more power)”?

I could equally claim that every employee that ever worked for me had the same desire. That&#039;s why I no longer employ anyone, as I am sick of being taken advantage of.

Employees can get other jobs. If they don&#039;t do exactly what I require of them, I lose everything and can no longer be an employer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superb post. Unfortunately present generations are fully functional in the malevolent legacy left to us by our post-WW1 democrats and we are now in the presence of a fully fledged battle waged by governments on behalf of some of us in order to live at the expense of the rest.</p>
<p>Worse, those who do understand the implications of the irrational hypocrisy of working until June to provide a living for the looters have been indoctrinated in the tools of democratic politics and consequently cannot envisage a system by which such institutionalised theft would cease. Universal slavery is thus guaranteed by the half of us who refuse to notice that they are the victims of the sacrifice.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t need to be  “Quis custodiet ipsos custode” because the imposed slavery is guaranteed by the slaves themselves.</p>
<p>And if I may reply to teqjack, above, who is generally on the right track, I would like to ask why he says that “&#8230;every employer I ever worked for had that tendency (to want more power)”?</p>
<p>I could equally claim that every employee that ever worked for me had the same desire. That&#8217;s why I no longer employ anyone, as I am sick of being taken advantage of.</p>
<p>Employees can get other jobs. If they don&#8217;t do exactly what I require of them, I lose everything and can no longer be an employer.</p>
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		<title>By: LiamH</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/04/17/a-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-266</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on.

Do not despair. I sense that there is a backlash brewing.

Despair. Most have us have been raised at the teet of government and we will never get from under its yolk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on.</p>
<p>Do not despair. I sense that there is a backlash brewing.</p>
<p>Despair. Most have us have been raised at the teet of government and we will never get from under its yolk.</p>
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		<title>By: teqjack</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/04/17/a-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-265</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... I think I understand, but not necessarily agree.

Yes, politicians - like most - want more power. Every employer I ever worked for had that tendency as well. As did those &quot;in charge&quot; of every charity, religious group... It is a natural, if not very nice, part of life: resist, but do not expect to end, power grabs. entirely.

Taxes, now... I just do not know how else to accomplish certain things I feel useful/necessary/desirable. But I do object, as I think most T.E.A. protestors do, with what is done with the taxes we pay in.

In the US, when passenger rail[road] declined alarmingly the government saw a need and established AMTRAK. But here in New England, I see AMTRAK money going into proposals to re-build the BosWash Corridor (OK, Portland Maine to Atlanta Georgia) to handle 200mph trains on routes with commuter stops about evey ten miles, while curtailing or even eliminating service in areas like Wyoming and Kansas where passenger service is still vital and stops often hundreds of miles apart. And I am eminded of Boston&#039;s MBTA, which upgraded its rolling stock a few decades ago and then had to petition the Chicago Museum of Transport to sell back one of the old snowplow engines because the new ones could not handle the job.

Extend such things across the whole outflow of taxes for all sorts of things, no matter how good they sound in press releases, and when people notice they will become upset. Add in &quot;the one trillion dollar deficit we inherited was unecessary and a bad thing, but the four trillion dollar deficit we propose is necessary and a good thing&quot; and the camel will try to throw off the whole pack - not just the latest straw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; I think I understand, but not necessarily agree.</p>
<p>Yes, politicians &#8211; like most &#8211; want more power. Every employer I ever worked for had that tendency as well. As did those &#8220;in charge&#8221; of every charity, religious group&#8230; It is a natural, if not very nice, part of life: resist, but do not expect to end, power grabs. entirely.</p>
<p>Taxes, now&#8230; I just do not know how else to accomplish certain things I feel useful/necessary/desirable. But I do object, as I think most T.E.A. protestors do, with what is done with the taxes we pay in.</p>
<p>In the US, when passenger rail[road] declined alarmingly the government saw a need and established AMTRAK. But here in New England, I see AMTRAK money going into proposals to re-build the BosWash Corridor (OK, Portland Maine to Atlanta Georgia) to handle 200mph trains on routes with commuter stops about evey ten miles, while curtailing or even eliminating service in areas like Wyoming and Kansas where passenger service is still vital and stops often hundreds of miles apart. And I am eminded of Boston&#8217;s MBTA, which upgraded its rolling stock a few decades ago and then had to petition the Chicago Museum of Transport to sell back one of the old snowplow engines because the new ones could not handle the job.</p>
<p>Extend such things across the whole outflow of taxes for all sorts of things, no matter how good they sound in press releases, and when people notice they will become upset. Add in &#8220;the one trillion dollar deficit we inherited was unecessary and a bad thing, but the four trillion dollar deficit we propose is necessary and a good thing&#8221; and the camel will try to throw off the whole pack &#8211; not just the latest straw.</p>
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