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	<description>inde vides agilem bella gerentem</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Johnson&#8217;s trousers ignite &#171; bella gerens</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/02/03/the-mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Johnson&#8217;s trousers ignite &#171; bella gerens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alan, you&#8217;re just trotting out the same old shit as your predecessor, only much less sympathetically because Jacqboot, unlike you, did seem to understand the difference [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Alan, you&#8217;re just trotting out the same old shit as your predecessor, only much less sympathetically because Jacqboot, unlike you, did seem to understand the difference [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bellagerens</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/02/03/the-mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>bellagerens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, as when the government &#039;consulted&#039; the &#039;public&#039; about the smoking ban, or the ban on displaying tobacco products in shops. In fact, they consulted a number of publicly-funded anti-smoking groups. &lt;a href=&quot;http://devilskitchen.me.uk/2008/12/fake-charities.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vide&lt;/a&gt;. Thank you for commenting; it heartens me to discover that the British public do not, in fact, think the way the British government claims they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, as when the government &#8216;consulted&#8217; the &#8216;public&#8217; about the smoking ban, or the ban on displaying tobacco products in shops. In fact, they consulted a number of publicly-funded anti-smoking groups. <a href="http://devilskitchen.me.uk/2008/12/fake-charities.html" rel="nofollow">Vide</a>. Thank you for commenting; it heartens me to discover that the British public do not, in fact, think the way the British government claims they do.</p>
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		<title>By: bellagerens</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/02/03/the-mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>bellagerens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really appreciate that. And I was hugely tickled to get a shout-out from DK who, I happen to know, has rather exacting standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really appreciate that. And I was hugely tickled to get a shout-out from DK who, I happen to know, has rather exacting standards.</p>
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		<title>By: bellagerens</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/02/03/the-mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>bellagerens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! I too am afraid, and I worry deeply about the sanity of people who are not. The response I most often hear from them is, &#039;Why should you mind that you can&#039;t do [x]? You shouldn&#039;t be doing it/there&#039;s no reason for doing it anyway.&#039; Makes me weep, it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! I too am afraid, and I worry deeply about the sanity of people who are not. The response I most often hear from them is, &#8216;Why should you mind that you can&#8217;t do [x]? You shouldn&#8217;t be doing it/there&#8217;s no reason for doing it anyway.&#8217; Makes me weep, it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/02/03/the-mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve only just come across this excellent article, so apologies for the late response.  No, Bella, despite what Jacquie and her cronies might try and pretend, the majority of the British public are, in fact, deeply suspicious about (a) the need for ID cards, (b) the real reasons this Government are so keen on them, (c) the accompanying databases which are being set up in order to make the scheme work (and the question about what might happen to those databases should the ID card proposals be abandoned), (d) the ability of our incompetent and self-serving public servants to implement the scheme and administer it fairly and (e) the possibility that an ID card system would do anything at all to prevent terrorism or crime.  With this Government, the “public opinions” they so lovingly trot out whenever it suits them rarely come from a wide and varied random selection of the real public and come instead from a small number of people, carefully selected from groups whom they know will give the “right” answer to enable them to make this claim.  The British public have rarely been “consulted” and are increasingly sceptical of the results of such “consultations.”

Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve only just come across this excellent article, so apologies for the late response.  No, Bella, despite what Jacquie and her cronies might try and pretend, the majority of the British public are, in fact, deeply suspicious about (a) the need for ID cards, (b) the real reasons this Government are so keen on them, (c) the accompanying databases which are being set up in order to make the scheme work (and the question about what might happen to those databases should the ID card proposals be abandoned), (d) the ability of our incompetent and self-serving public servants to implement the scheme and administer it fairly and (e) the possibility that an ID card system would do anything at all to prevent terrorism or crime.  With this Government, the “public opinions” they so lovingly trot out whenever it suits them rarely come from a wide and varied random selection of the real public and come instead from a small number of people, carefully selected from groups whom they know will give the “right” answer to enable them to make this claim.  The British public have rarely been “consulted” and are increasingly sceptical of the results of such “consultations.”</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Cussans</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/02/03/the-mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Cussans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know. It was thanks to Chris that I stumbled on you in the first place.

But, in all the confused mess that may or may not constitute the blogosphere, I think you may, properly, have something important to say.

Early days I know. But it&#039;s impressive nonetheless.

You should definitely keep going.

Honest.

Thomas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know. It was thanks to Chris that I stumbled on you in the first place.</p>
<p>But, in all the confused mess that may or may not constitute the blogosphere, I think you may, properly, have something important to say.</p>
<p>Early days I know. But it&#8217;s impressive nonetheless.</p>
<p>You should definitely keep going.</p>
<p>Honest.</p>
<p>Thomas</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Dixon</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/02/03/the-mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Dixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have enjoyed your comments if only I weren&#039;t so afraid. People I speak to seem totally unconcerned about the galloping loss of freedom; or remark that &#039;they can do nothing.&#039; How I deplore the terminological inexactitudes of Jacqui and Jack! How do these turds sleep at night.
Keep up the good work Bella.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have enjoyed your comments if only I weren&#8217;t so afraid. People I speak to seem totally unconcerned about the galloping loss of freedom; or remark that &#8216;they can do nothing.&#8217; How I deplore the terminological inexactitudes of Jacqui and Jack! How do these turds sleep at night.<br />
Keep up the good work Bella.</p>
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		<title>By: bellagerens</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/02/03/the-mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>bellagerens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!

I&#039;m well aware of the nonsense US immigration makes foreigners go through. Believe me, I don&#039;t support that, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m well aware of the nonsense US immigration makes foreigners go through. Believe me, I don&#8217;t support that, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/02/03/the-mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,
Great article that expounds pretty much what most Brits think as well.
No-one believes &#039;the majority want ID cards...&#039;.

The only problem in your argument is that if we Brits want to fly to the USA, we have to pre-register 36 or more pieces of data, together with our credit card details AND provide finger prints and photoscan on presenting ourselves at your wonderful US border guard officers.  Otherwise, Go Bella, you rock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,<br />
Great article that expounds pretty much what most Brits think as well.<br />
No-one believes &#8216;the majority want ID cards&#8230;&#8217;.</p>
<p>The only problem in your argument is that if we Brits want to fly to the USA, we have to pre-register 36 or more pieces of data, together with our credit card details AND provide finger prints and photoscan on presenting ourselves at your wonderful US border guard officers.  Otherwise, Go Bella, you rock.</p>
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		<title>By: bellagerens</title>
		<link>http://bellagerens.com/2009/02/03/the-mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>bellagerens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks!

I think most people are commenting over at the Devil&#039;s Kitchen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks!</p>
<p>I think most people are commenting over at the Devil&#8217;s Kitchen&#8230;</p>
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